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The Story Behind The Controversial 1909 VDB & 1909-S VDB Penny

by Joshua McMorrow-Hernandez

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You’ve probably heard about the valuable 1909 VDB and 1909-S VDB pennies.

You probably know that the “S” is the mintmark (meaning it was struck at the San Francisco Mint).

But did you ever wonder what the VDB stood for? V.D.B. actually refers to the designer of the Lincoln cent: Victor David Brenner.

Of course, all 1909 VDB pennies without the “S” mintmark were struck at the Philadelphia Mint.

Following is the story behind the controversial 1909 VDB cents (both, with and without the “S”) — and their designer, Victor David Brenner.

I’ll also be mentioning their current values, and how to spot counterfeits!

How Much Are 1909 VDB Pennies Worth?

What would it cost you to get ahold of a V.D.B. penny?

Well, you can actually buy a 1909 VDB penny for as little as $10 to $20!

The Philadelphia Mint produced almost 28 million 1909 pennies with the large V.D.B. on the reverse, and the Philadelphia VDB penny happens to be relatively common.

Even though Philly released 28 million of them, finding one with original mint red (RD) color or a sharp MS65 grade is a major win!

Most of what you’ll dig up in old coin jars will be deep chocolate brown (BN) with heavily smoothed wheat ears — but they’re still a blast to hold!

Here’s what those coin grade abbreviations really mean.

How Much Are 1909-S VDB Pennies Worth?

It’s the San Francisco version of the 1909 VDB penny that is so well known among coin collectors, investors, and the general public. Only 484,000 1909-S VDB pennies were struck at the San Francisco Mint.

While nearly half a million may sound like a large number of pennies… when you consider the great demand for this particular coin, it then becomes no surprise why this coin easily commands $750 and up in well-worn grades.

Buying or selling old coins like the 1909-S VDB penny is quite a business! One that requires lots of skill to do it right and make money in the process without getting burned by fake rare coins.

How To Spot Fake 1909-S VDB Pennies

You can identify authentic 1909-S VDB pennies by the placement of the “S” mint mark.

Authentic 1909-S VDB pennies are classified into 4 distinct “types” — based on the 4 unique obverse working dies used by the San Francisco Mint.

These types are defined strictly by the position and alignment of the “S” mintmark relative to the date digits “1909”.

The 4 Authentic Mintmark Positions On 1909-S VDB Cents

  • Position 1 (High “S”) — The mintmark sits very high, with the top of the “S” visibly above the bottom loops of both the first “9” and the “0” of the date.
  • Position 2 (Medium-High “S”) — The top of the “S” is roughly flush with the bottom loops of the “9” digits, but the mint mark is positioned horizontally closer to the first “9”.
  • Position 3 (Medium-Low “S”) — The top of the “S” is flush with the bottom loops of the “9” digits, but it is shifted horizontally to the right, sitting centered in the space between the first “9” and the “0”.
  • Position 4 (Low “S”) — The mintmark is placed at the lowest position, completely below the bottom loop of the “9” digits. It sits to the right, underneath the space between the first “9” and the “0”.

Key Diagnostic Markers On 1909-S VDB Cents

An authentic 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent matching one of those 4 positions must also feature these 3 very specific original die characteristics:

  • The “S” Mintmark — Counterfeiters love taking a common 1909 VDB Philadelphia penny and gluing a fake “S” onto it. However, the Mint hand-punched the “S” on working dies for 1909 — meaning it will appear crisp and naturally integrated in the surrounding surface. Genuine “S” punches feature clear, parallel serifs that align vertically in the same direction. Authentic examples also feature a tiny raised metal dot inside the upper curve loop of the “S”. If you notice a tiny seam line running around the base of the letter “S,” you’re looking at an electroplated or glued counterfeit “S” rather than an original San Francisco strike.
  • The V.D.B. Initials — The designer’s initials on the reverse at the bottom center feature specific angles. Most importantly, the central crossbar on the letter “B” must slant downward — from left to right. Also, the bottom base of the letter “D” shows a noticeable slant (rather than being perfectly flat or horizontal). Counterfeiters like to take a standard 1909-S penny and try to engrave the initials “V.D.B.” onto the back of the coin. So check the center crossbar of the letter “B” in V.D.B. closely!
  • Reverse Die Crack — Many genuine examples of the 1909-S VDB penny feature a subtle, faint vertical die crack running straight through the letter “O” in the word “ONE” on the reverse wheat side. This tiny imperfection occurred when the heavily stressed steel minting die began to fracture under immense pressure during production. Because this specific diagnostic marker is incredibly difficult for counterfeiters to replicate convincingly, its presence serves as a highly sought-after “fingerprint” that helps experts instantly confirm a coin’s absolute authenticity.

The VDB Penny Designer’s Interesting History

Victor David Brenner’s story is as interesting as the coin he later would become famous for designing.

Brenner was born Viktoras Barnauskas on June 12, 1871 in Shavli, Lithuania.

Here, Victor David Brenner is seated in a studio with a plaster model of the large design for the Lincoln cent.

He arrived in America in 1890 as an immigrant and eventually became a New York City jewelry engraver. However, he had long been interested in medals and sculpting, and he pursued opportunities to use his incredible sculpting and engraving skills.

Brenner went to Paris in 1898 and spent his 3 years there studying art. Upon returning to America, he created hubs and dies to make medals, but in 1904 he again returned to Paris.

By 1906, Brenner was back in New York City. In 1907, his fame was growing, and one of his most popular pieces was a plaque of President Abraham Lincoln.

In 1908, President Theodore Roosevelt chose Brenner to design a medal commemorating the Panama Canal. With the death of the famous artist and coin designer Augustus Saint-Gaudens in 1907, the U.S. Mint was looking for new designers to take over the work that Saint-Gaudens was slated to complete. President Roosevelt and the U.S. Mint knew who to contact when it came time to redesign the penny for the commemoration of the centennial of Lincoln’s birth: Victor David Brenner.

That very popular Lincoln plaque that Brenner designed a couple years earlier was a significant model that Brenner used for designing the new Lincoln cent. On August 2, 1909, the Lincoln cent was released to the public, to much fanfare.

However, there were some complaints about the prominence of Brenner’s initials (V.D.B.) on the back of the Lincoln cent. The initials are located under the wheat stalks.

The U.S. Mint responded to the criticism by removing the initials. Thus, the result is some 1909 Lincoln cents bear the V.D.B. initials, and others do not.

In 1918, the U.S. Mint restored Brenner’s initials to the Lincoln cent, but this time in a more discreet fashion — tiny initials under Lincoln’s shoulder on the obverse.

Whatever happened to Brenner? The Lincoln cent would be the only circulating U.S. coin he would ever get to design, though he did try multiple times to obtain other U.S. coin designing duties. He continued his work as a renowned artist and sculptor.

Brenner passed away on April 4, 1924, but his famous Lincoln cent is a lasting tribute that lives on.

Your Turn…

Have you been lucky enough to pull a genuine 1909-S VDB straight out of an old estate collection? Or are you still searching bank rolls hoping to cross a common Philly VDB off your bucket list?

Drop a comment below and tell me how your luck has been with the 1909 VDB penny!

If you think you’ve found a “slanted-B” or want me to check out the mintmark placement on your coin, snap a clean, close-up macro shot and share it in the comments.

PUBLISHED July 29, 2026
UPDATED August 20, 2026

Joshua McMorrow-Hernandez

Numismatic Specialist

Hi, I’m Josh! I’m the Editor here at the US Coins Guide. My love for coins began when I was 11 years old. I primarily collect and study U.S. coins produced during the 20th century.

I’m a member of the American Numismatic Association (ANA) and the Numismatic Literary Guild (NLG). I have won multiple awards from the NLG for my work as a coin journalist. I’m also the editor at the Florida United Numismatists Club (FUN Topics magazine), and author of Images of America: The United States Mint in Philadelphia (a book that explores the colorful history of the Philadelphia Mint). I’ve contributed hundreds of articles for various coin publications including COINage, The Numismatist, Numismatic News, Coin Dealer Newsletter, Coin Values, and CoinWeek.

I’ve authored over 1,000 articles here at the US Coins Guide (many with over 50K shares).

I welcome your coin questions!

14 responses to “The Story Behind The Controversial 1909 VDB & 1909-S VDB Penny”

  1. Wonderheart7 Avatar
    Wonderheart7

    I’m 58 yrs old and I remember my brother who is a few years older was collecting coins when we were little children and he had a l909 vdb s penny and my sister would take coins from his collection and spend them and this penny was one of on the coins that she spent , coins can come and go but my brother and sister and still here .

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      Anonymous

      What a great lesson, Wonderheart! So sorry to hear that the 1909-S VDB scampered off, shall I say, but I’m very glad to hear that you and your siblings are all still together — and maybe can even share a good laugh or two about that 1909-S VDB cent!

    2. MichaelC Avatar
      MichaelC

      losing a 1909s VDB penny like that tells me that your sister had a streak of mean in her when she was little. She stole the most expensive penny in the Lincoln set… A full Lincoln set from 1909 to 1940 can bring anywhere between $1,500 to over $3,000, with that one penny being near impossible to find at a reasonable price today and NEVER in circulation…

      1. JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide Avatar
        JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide

        Ahh, never say never, Michael! There actually have been authenticated accounts of people finding the 1909-S VDB cent in circulation during recent years. In fact, noted numismatic scholar Scott Travers released one into circulation on live TV several years ago as part of an effort to engage more people in coin collecting.

        1. MichaelC Avatar
          MichaelC

          it is amazing what they’ll give you back in change at WalMart. LOL!

          1. JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide Avatar
            JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide

            Isn’t it, Michael?!

  2. CorienneK Avatar
    CorienneK

    I have a 1909 s vdb penny that i found in some old coins from my husbands grandpa..Do you know where i could sell it at

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      Anonymous

      Corienne,

      Assuming your 1909-S VDB penny is authentic, it is worth at least $750 to $1,000. You will want to sell it to a reputable coin dealer. Here is a search engine that can help you locate the best coin dealers nearest you: https://www.pngdealers.com/dealersearch.php

  3. Bruce Avatar

    Hello. I have a large 1909 S penny. I know its more then likely a fake collectors item or something. But it does not have the V.D.B on it. Does anyone know exactly where it came from, or what it is worth? I am not looking to sell it or anything, I just want to know all about it, since I can’t find anything about it anywhere! The information is greatly appreciated !

    1. MichaelC Avatar
      MichaelC

      they make fake replica coins and your large probably about 1 1/2″ across 1909s penny is exactly that, a replica. Real 1909’s are the same normal size and they made 1909, 1909s and 1909s VDB. You will most likely never find a 1909 coin in circulation…

  4. Tammra King Avatar
    Tammra King

    I have a 1909 vdb penny also a 1909 with no vdm are they worth anything

    1. JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide Avatar
      JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide

      Hi, Tammra —

      A typical 1909 Lincoln penny in well-worn circulated grades is worth $3 to $5 while a 1909-VDB in the same condition is worth $10 to $15.

      Hope this info helps,
      Josh

  5. Timothy Cambron Avatar
    Timothy Cambron

    I have a 1918 without mint mark or the V.D.B.. Is this even possible or has my coin been aided in its rarity?

    1. JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide Avatar
      JoshuaTheFunTimesGuide

      Hi, Timothy —

      I’d need to please see a photo of the coin to make sure, but chances are the “VDB” is either obliterated due to wear (by far the most likely situation here) or was obscured by a grease-filled error (probably not the case but plausible). I’d be glad to help further if you kindly upload a clear closeup photo of this 1918 penny with a focus on the area where VDB is supposed to be.

      Thank you,
      Josh

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